our next guest says the obama administration has plans to push americans slowly, but surely from the suburbs into the big cities as a means to quote, spread the wealth around. and stanley kurtz "spreading the wealth", this isn't just based on your book, but what the obama administration do last week. >> that's right, it looks like president obama's plans to fight global warming are going to hurt american suburbs because the obama administration believes in something called smart growth. the idea of smart growth policies is, get out of your car, don't move to the suburbs, you should live in a tiny densely packed apartment building in the city where you can walk and take public transportation and don't drive. that's smart growth. and the obama administration is gearing up to impose the smart growth on the country and that would be bad for america's suburbs. >> megyn: how would they do it, make us move from the suburbs to the city? most of the people who live in the suburbs like the suburbs and don't want to live in the city. how would they make us do it it? >> several plans, part is to